C Committee Meetings
First Meeting
November 25-26, 1996
Presentations
Study Background and Expectations from Sponsor
Hubert E. Wilson and Ray Conrad, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF), Washington, D.C.
Bomb Scene Investigation Procedures
Michael Bouchard, ATF, Washington, D.C.
Federal Aviation Administration Explosive Detection Program
Lyle Malotky, Committee Member
Second Meeting and Workshop, ''Technical Details Relevant to the Use and Effectiveness of Taggants"
January 13-15, 1997
Presentations
International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) Work on Plastic Explosive Taggants (in Executive Session)
Tung-ho Chen, Committee Member
NOTE: Because of the sensitive nature of some of the information, some presentations to the committee were not delivered in open session. These are indicated by "(in Executive Session)."
Nationwide Pilot Test for the Identification Tagging of Explosives (1977-1980)
Gary H. Fuller (former Aerospace Corporation staff), Systems Support Inc., Great Falls, Va.
Taggant Concept—Microtrace Inc.
William J. Kerns and Charles W. Faulkner, Microtrace Inc., Minneapolis, Minn.
Taggant Concept—Micro Tracers Inc.
David A. Eisenberg, Micro Tracer Inc., San Francisco, Calif.
Taggant Stakeholder—National Mining Association
Terry O'Connor and Bobby J. Jackson, National Mining Association, Washington, D.C.
Taggant Stakeholder—Institute of Makers of Explosives
J. Christopher Ronay, Institute of Markers of Explosives, Washington, D.C.
Taggants and Explosive Detection Research
David Boyd, National Institute of Justice, Washington, D.C.
Taggant Stakeholder—A Law Enforcement Perspective
Lt. Thomas Spencer and Sgt. Howard Rechtshaffen, Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department, Los Angeles, Calif.
Taggant Concept—Chemical Delivery Systems Inc.
Victor A. Cranich, Chemical Delivery Systems Inc., Kettering, Ohio
Taggant Concept—SRI International
James Colton, SRI International, Menlo Park, Calif.
Taggant Concept—Isotag LLC
Manuel E. Gonzalez and Dale Spall, Isotag LLC, Houston, Tex.
Taggant Concept—Cambridge Isotope Laboratories Inc.
Daniel Bolt, Cambridge Isotope Laboratories Inc., Andover, Mass.
Taggant Concept—Tri-Valley Research
John Pearson and Robert M. Pearson, Tri-Valley Research, Medford, Ore.
Taggant Concept—BioTraces Inc.
Andrzej Drukier and James Wadiak, BioTraces Inc., Fairfax, Va.
Taggant Concept—Biocode Inc.
Frank Angella, Biocode Inc., Cambridge, Mass.
Taggant Concept—Innovative Biosystems Inc.
Keith Stormo, Innovative Biosystems Inc., Moscow, Idaho
Taggant Stakeholder—Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers' Institute
James J. Baker, Donald H. Burton, and Kenneth Green, Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers' Institute, Washington, D.C.
Taggant Stakeholder—National Rifle Association
Tanya K. Metaksa and Mark Barnes, National Rifle Association, Washington, D.C.
Taggant Stakeholder—Chemical Manufacturers Association
Marybeth Kelliher, Chemical Manufacturers Association, Arlington, Va.
Taggant Stakeholder—American Pyrotechnics Association
John A. Conkling and Julie Hechtman, American Pyrotechnics Association, Gaithersburg, Md.
Taggant Stakeholder—International Society of Explosives Engineers
Jeffrey L. Dean, International Society of Explosives Engineers, Cleveland, Ohio
Third Meeting
March 3-5, 1997
Presentations
JASON Program Reports on Explosives Detection (in Executive Session)
Paul Horowitz, Harvard University, and member of the JASON program
Types of Explosives and Precursor Materials (in Executive Session)
Jimmie Oxley, Committee Member
Types of Bombers, Tactics, Materials, and Methods of Fabrication (in Executive Session)
Gregory A. Carl, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Washington, D.C.
Explosives Manufacturing, Chain of Ownership, and Impurity Profiling Between Batches
Paul Rydlund, El Dorado Chemical, St. Louis, Mo.
Taggant Stakeholder—The Fertilizer Institute
Gary Myers, President, and Ford West, Vice President, the Fertilizer Institute, Washington, D.C.
Technical Support Working Group on Counterterrorism Explosives Detection Programs (in Executive Session)
Michael Jakub, State Department, Washington, D.C.
Explosives Desensitization Program (in Executive Session)
Joseph Heimerl, Army Research Laboratory, Adelphi, Md.
Navy Work on Desensitizing of Explosive Materials (in Executive Session)
Ruth Doherty, Naval Surface Warfare Center, Indian Head, Md.
Chemical Weapons Convention Controls on Precursor Chemicals (in Executive Session)
William Carpenter, Monsanto (retired), St. Louis, Mo., and Robert Mikulak, U.S. Arms Control and Disarmament Agency, Washington, D.C.
Drug Enforcement Agency Controls on Precursor Chemicals (in Executive Session)
John Moudri, Drug Enforcement Agency, Washington, D.C.
Chemical Industry Flows (in Executive Session)
Jeffrey C. Terry, Chemical Manufacturers Association, Arlington, Va.
Congressional Discussion
Christopher Putala, Senator Joseph Biden's Office, U.S. Senate, Washington, D.C.
Fourth Meeting
March 24-25, 1997
Presentations
Holston Army Ammunition Plant Marking of Military C-4 Explosive (in Executive Session)
Jerry Hammonds, Holston Army Ammunition Plant, Kingston, Tenn.
Law Enforcement Perspectives (in Executive Session)
Richard Saferstein (retired), New Jersey State Police Laboratory, Trenton, N.J.
Cobalt-60 Detection Taggant Evaluation (in Executive Session)
Kenneth Moy, Special Technologies Laboratory, Santa Barbara, Calif.
Types of Explosive Materials Used in Improvised Explosive Devices (in Executive Session)
Richard Strobel, ATF Laboratory, Rockville, Md.
Taggant Usefulness in an Actual Bombing Case (in Executive Session)
Daniel Boeh, ATF Investigator, Pittsburgh, Pa.
Landmine Sniffing Technologies (in Executive Session)
Regina Dugan, Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, Arlington, Va.
Ammonium Nitrate Manufacturing
Robert Hopler, Committee Member
Status of the Commercial Explosives Industry
Robert Hopler, Committee Member
Legal Issues in Actual Bombing Cases
James W. Jardine, Q.C., Barrister and Solicitor, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Behavioral Science: Deterrent Effects on Crime
Daniel Nagin, Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh, Pa.
Risk Assessment
James Lamb, Jellinek, Schwartz and Connolly Inc., Washington, D.C.
Measuring Costs and Benefits
Richard Mudge, Apogee Research Inc., Bethesda, Md.
Site Visit
March 26, 1997
Members of the committee visited the ATF (Rockville, Md.) and FBI (Washington, D.C.) forensic science laboratories associated with bomb scene investigations
Site Visit
April 6-11, 1997
Six members of the committee visited the Swiss Scientific Research Service (Zurich, Switzerland) and the British Ministry of Defence (London, England)
Fifth Meeting
May 5-6, 1997
Presentations
Briefings on ATF/FBI Laboratories and European Site Visits Reports (in Executive Session)
Alexander MacLachlan and Edward Arnett, Committee Members
Desensitization of ANFO
Joseph V. Urenovitch and Bibhu Monhanty, ICI Explosives, McMasterville, Quebec, Canada
Bomb Scene Investigation and Utility of Taggants
Steven Burmeister, FBI Laboratory, Washington, D.C.
Congressional Discussion
William McGeveran, Representative Charles Schumer's Office, U.S. House of Representatives, Washington, D.C.
Sixth Meeting
June 1-3, 1997
Committee Deliberations
Seventh Meeting
July 17-18, 1997
Committee Deliberations
Eighth Meeting
September 4-5, 1997
Committee Deliberations
Ninth Meeting
January 22-23, 1998
Committee Deliberations